Dawkins T-shirt

This could probably get me killed, but i am drooling over the idea of buying this shirt and going to my college wearing it!

*The shirt is available for sale at http://richarddawkins.net


Uni said…
What tickles you in this ?
Saher Sajid said…
Why can't you love God, Mr. Awais?
Has He been too hard on you???
WritingsForLife said…
oh yeah... in pakistan, it will get you killed. Good luck with that. :-)
i don't like his polemicist approach, but that Dawkins sure gets me. i so know what he's talking about when he says 'bully'.
Anonymous said…
saher z right mr awais?
y cant u lov GOD?
plz tel the reason????
Awais Aftab said…
I do not hate the God concept per se. I am only against a certain conception of God, to which the description given by Dawkins does apply, and which is being used to justify all sorts of tyrannies in the world.
Uni said…
Hmm.. so you're against an entity, just because of PEOPLE using it to do bad things in the world :S

Men shape your opinions this easily?

Awais Aftab said…
I am not against an 'entity', i am against a certain conception of it. The concept of God is not a homogenous group of beliefs. Rather the term is an umbrella for a heterogenous, diverse, and often contradictory, views about the existence of a super-human entity. The qualities and actions ascribed to it have been different at different times, and different in different religions and philosophies. I don't "hate" many of these conceptions (though i may have philosophical reservations about them); i am only against a certain subset of these "Gods", which happen to have one or more of the qualities described by Dawkins. If you notice, Dawkins also specifically mentions 'God of the Old Testament', because he, too, is aware that conceptions of God vary and this particular criticism would not be applicable on all of them.

An extract from Wikipedia:

"Conceptions of God vary widely. Theologians and philosophers have studied countless conceptions of God since the dawn of civilization. The Abrahamic conceptions of God include the trinitarian view of Christians, the Kabbalistic definition of Jewish mysticism, and the Islamic concept of God. The dharmic religions differ in their view of the divine: views of God in Hinduism vary by region, sect, and caste, ranging from monotheistic to polytheistic to atheistic; the view of God in Buddhism is almost non-theist. In modern times, some more abstract concepts have been developed, such as process theology and open theism. Conceptions of God held by individual believers vary so widely that there is no clear consensus on the nature of God."

F. said…
Which is why I stopped calling myself a Muslim or trying to be one. My God is my god, thank you very much,so will the rest of the world please stay out of it?:) Anyway,can't see pics on a phone.
F. said…
Ah,heck,can't find the delete button...Opera mini is probably not a compatible browser,so fix the double posting,ok?I am not sure I have...
Awais Aftab said…
@ F.

The problem has been taken care of :)
Saher Sajid said…
I know I'm being far too personal, which I should not but I can't help it.
Do you really love God? Or believe in one for that matter?
Awais Aftab said…
@ Saher

I think i will answer this question in detail in a post somewhere in future :)
Uni said…
So er, okay, my question still stands.

Which conception of God are you against? The God of the Old Testament ?

The same God that we believe in? Muslims? Or some other "concept" ?

Your views aren't very clear..:S I mean, you have proved that there are MANY conceptions .. but

Where do you stand?
Anonymous said…
@ F
You can use opera mini4.2.
well You people are talking about God.... Very very complex topic you better not discuss it. There will be no conclusion afterall! One thing which is confirm is that God do exist. Awais you know about the concept of Sir Hafiz Akbar?? Do you?
Awais Aftab said…
@ Uni

Yeah, i have deliberately unclear about my own view on the matter, because its complicated, and i am saving it for a future time to explain in detail.

@ Anonymous

One thing which is confirm is that God do exist.

There is no valid philosophical proof of the existence of God.

No, i am not aware of Sir Hafiz Akbar's views on the matter. What did he say? (You are a Crescentarian, i presume?)
A said…
LOL. I just love your...consistency Awais bhai. :p

A few months ago, this would have been outrageous. Now, I read it, smile lop-sidedly, shake my head and go: 'So Awais'.